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Eben mentioned how computer software has been traditionally protected by copyright, instead of patents. That has me thinking, maybe patent protection is better than copyright (if we cannot achieve free computer software).

Patent protection may be better for the following reasons:

1) Its term is shorter - 20 years from date of filing - rather than the long protection given to copyright (life of author + 70 years, usually).

2) Patent protection is tougher to obtain, with thresholds of utility, novelty, and nonobviousness. Although computer software qualifies as eligible subject matter (a process, tied to a machine or transformation), the other thresholds likely limit patentability for many software programs, especially those that are mere copycats or minor improvements of other programs. That makes patents for computer software relatively difficult to obtain, as opposed to copyright protection, which comes with lower substantive standards.

3) Blocking patents foster more cross-licensing and improvements than derivative works under copyright. When one inventor creates new patentable software based on another inventor's software, patent law creates incentives for both to cross-license. Having multiple players provides incentives for them to license to the public and for the public to experiment as well. On the other hand, an unauthorized derivative "author" of a new software program based on a copyrighted software has no IP rights.

4) Patents encourage open disclosure of claims and how to use and make the computer program. That encourages others to learn about new software and gives them opportunities and the know how to make better software. The first inventor, through disclosing the invention in the patent application, must provide clues to others in the art on practicing the invention. Copyright, meanwhile, provides little incentives for others to experiment with and use software to create new software (fair use is limited in extent here).

The drawback about patents is the extensive protection, especially in distribution rights (prohibiting sale and offering for sale). It has fewer exceptions for non-licensed users to experiment with. I am curious to see what the impact of the recently passed America Invents Act will have on patents for computer software. For all you IP fans, do you think patent protection is better or worse than copyright for computer software?

-- ThomasHou - 03 Oct 2011

http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20111001/00365416161/patent-troll-says-anyone-using-wifi-infringes-wont-sue-individuals-this-stage.shtml

this is an short article on what's going on with wi-fi patents right now. That he is suing for only small amounts to "force" the other companies to settle instead of hiring a lawyer and going to court demonstrates that the patent system can be used as a weapon just as copyright protection can.

I agree with you saying that patents are harder to obtain, but is that necessarily better? For creative works offering only minor variations on older copyrighted works, copyright protection likely will only extend (if it were to exist at all in the new work) to the original material in that new work, i.e., only the minor changes. Thus, the lower copyright standards don't necessarily create barriers because of the lower substantive standard. That new, minor changes are copyrighted doesn't necessarily create problems for the original creator. While a patent system might make it harder for these minor changes to be protected, that they would be protected doesn't seem to present any problems for the original creator. Maybe someone can comment on this and discuss how minor variations becoming protected can harm the original creator. Other than that, I don't know nearly enough to actually make any claims regarding which is better - copyright or patent.

-- AustinKlar - 05 Oct 2011

A few points.

1. It sounds like the most compelling argument for why patents are "better" than copyright has to do with the shorter term. Indeed, there is research in which people have tried to determine the optimal copyright term economically, given production and reproduction costs, and have found terms on the order of 14 years and even 2-4 years. But of course, these studies have a huge assumption -- that copyright is economically beneficial at all, an assumption that the authors of the latter work acknowledge and disagree with, and they note that absence of copyright beats any "optimal" term.

2. I have yet to see any research that shows social benefits for software patents -- or even benefits for the software industry. It appears to be redistribution + parasitic loss. I've seen some hand-waving to the effect that patents are useful because they are "assets" that a start-up company can use to attract funding... but no one I know who is really pursuing a start-up cares about this from a development standpoint. (VCs care, because if the start-up fails, they can just sell them off to trolls or companies worried about blocking litigation -- again, totally parasitic on innovation.)

3. There's a really fundamental problem here: a software patent is a monopoly on a mental process -- a thought, an idea, a mathematical formulation that just happens to use a computer to implement. There's no way to "design around" a concept -- you're simply blocked from having that thought and doing something useful for it, or else the coercive power of the state falls on you. Look at this case or this one (I'm linking to blog posts about them, but it's easy to link to the opinion themselves). Now, Rader or Newman would say that, hey, if these are "obvious" thoughts, then the patent is invalid... but in principle, there can be a coercive, state-enforced monopoly.

So, I guess, yeah, maybe patents are better because at least innovation can be taxed and hampered (if not blocked altogether) for 17 years or 20 years or whatever, as opposed to for 99 years or 150 years or however long copyrights last, but in the context of software that is only relevant for a few years (at most), it's still bad. And, in the case of that second case I linked to, Classen, it's verging on a moral abomination.

-- BahradSokhansanj - 05 Oct 2011

Responding to Austin's comment, original authors or inventors do care that minor changes off their works are protected and whose IP rights are given to someone else. On the patent side, an inventor of a pioneering product would expect to recoup not just the invention itself, but also the market for products that "proximately" branch off it. Having another inventor monopolize and block the ability of the first inventor to realize the market off his invention would produce less incentive to invent in the first place. Therefore, patents has the doctrine of equivalents to allow inventors to claim infringement on products that are substantially similar. The system realizes the need of broad market rights for inventors to realize profits off their inventions, and thus requires any improvement off a previous invention to itself satisfy the threshold of patentability.

Responding to Bahrad, software patents are not monopolies on mental processes, which are themselves unpatentable per se. They involve application of the mental process to a specific procedure or machine. The protection granted by patent law is on the specific application, usually tied to the machine/computer or transformative effect. Now I agree with you and other authority that many software patents are not worthwhile for the software industry or society. And I think the Fed. Cir. is continuing to mess up Section 101 (patentable subject matter), including computer software. But some patent protection may be desirable for the next new software that can change how we work or use computers. Some software programs that might be created would require enormous time and resources beyond the willingness and ability of individuals who can try to innovate for free. Even though it may sound cynical and against what our class is about, we may need large companies and patent protection to encourage broadly the development of all kinds of software.

-- ThomasHou - 06 Oct 2011

From what I can surmise based on my budding IP knowledge, I think copyright is a better solution than patent because copyright protection does not extend to ideas or methods of operation that are too functional to be expressive. Reverse engineering is also allowed with copyrighted works, but not with patented works. Copyright could definitely be improved by expanding the fair use doctrine so that its applications to the software realm are more apparent. For instance, eager, altruistic Linux-type developers could push out improvements to popular commercial software without fear of retribution.

Also, here's an infographic on tech companies' patent wars and their stifling effect on innovation.

-- MiaLee - 06 Oct 2011

A few things. First, just because software patents use the magic words "with a computer" doesn't make them any less patents on mental processes -- they're just being written with an artificial formality of language to evade Section 101. A general purpose computer is just a machine for implementing algorithms, and it's the algorithms that are being patented. Second, the absence of software patents doesn't mean that people "innovate for free." I don't really know how to argue about this except to say that lots of innovators have gotten very rich without enforcing software patents. Third, there are large companies that have grown successfully large without software patents (not sure what "large" means in this context).

Finally, re, which is the "better solution." What is the problem? What are we solving with our solutions of copyright or patent or whatever else. How is the problem defined? I'd love to see some empirical data describing the scope of this problem. I would like to see any evidence at all that we need IP for what it's claimed it does, which as far as I can tell is "incentivize innovation," I guess? I'll even take anecdotes -- even just one -- of people who have started software businesses or invented software because they knew they'd have a patent or copyright. Because I can point you to all kinds of people who never expected IP to give them monopoly power (even if they did end up getting patents or copyrights because their university or funders made them) who still innovate, of products that are improved and make more money for their producers because of end-user innovation, of how all sorts of IP formulations end up hindering innovation and introducing inefficiency, etc.

-- BahradSokhansanj - 06 Oct 2011

First, the link Mia provided was fantastic. Second, and in response to the first overall point in this discussion, isn't 20 years too long already? In the world of rapidly evolving tech, only big, fundamental patents might reflect tech that is still useful 20 years after its invention.

More about how the above infographic helps demonstrate why patent protection is stifling rather than encouraging innovation: Consider the possibility that Insert Evil Company Here (IECH) has some tech out in the consumer sector that's massively profitable. They've got the production or whatnot down so well it's 99% profit. Consequence #1: Their R&D may be churning out wonderful new ideas that consumers would adore having in their homes, but they aren't as profitable, so they patent the idea and put it in a closet in case someone else tries to bring it to the market and undermine IECH's enormous market share. Realizing the potential of this strategy (allowing IECH to ride the gravy train of tech #1 for eons), Consequence #2: IECH begins using its massive profits to buy up patents, even at outrageous prices, from tech companies the world over to make sure its closet full of patents is even more well-stocked. The atmosphere is now ripe for innovators to get their pants sued off for anything that might compete with tech #1, all while IECH has no incentive to roll out anything innovative themselves until it displaces tech #1 in terms of profitability.

-- JohnJeffcott - 06 Oct 2011

 

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