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StevenWuFirstPaper 13 - 30 Nov 2009 - Main.GavinSnyder
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 Dana, that was the joke. wink It was a kind of depressing joke. Brian, I was not being facetious when I called it "slavery."

-- StevenWu - 21 Nov 2009

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Isn't there a fifth category -- extorting money from people who take the zero-marginal-cost goods that you happen to have a statutory monopoly on by threatening them with litigation?

-- GavinSnyder - 30 Nov 2009

 
 
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StevenWuFirstPaper 12 - 23 Nov 2009 - Main.StevenWu
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 The conflict between users and providers of information exists because data aggregation or advertising is a hindrance to the user rather than an asset. However, data aggregation or advertising need not be a hindrance. Users are often willing to incur costs so that their data can be aggregated or so that they can be exposed to advertising. If data aggregation and advertising can be seen as features rather than as defects, then they become one of the bundled goods or one of the more effective forms of delivery. Data aggregation and advertising can be seen to serve the user's ends.
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As I was writing this paper, Pandora Radio introduced me to Coldplay's Viva La Vida. It fit my musical tastes perfectly. It then tried to play Britney Spears's Blackout. No thanks. Do I seem like a Britney Spears fan? I guess a computer program wouldn't know better. One day, Google may tell me what to read, Amazon will tell me what to buy and Facebook will tell me whom to be friends with. They will offer me better recommendations if I let them aggregate my data. They will play at my fears. They will toy with my subconscious. They will do it in subtle ways. I will continue using their products. Lady Gaga's Beautiful, Dirty, Rich is on. I love that song.
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As I was writing this paper, Pandora Radio introduced me to Coldplay's Viva La Vida. It fit my musical tastes perfectly. It then tried to play Britney Spears's Blackout. No thanks. Do I seem like a Britney Spears fan? I guess a computer program wouldn't know better. Google tells me what to read, Amazon tells me what to buy, eHarmony tells me whom to fuck, JDate tells whom to marry, CareerBuilder? tells me what where to work and Facebook tells me whom to be befriend and what to do with my new friends. In the past, these functions were performed by family and friends. These companies are not my friends and they are obviously not my family. They play at my fears. They toy with my subconscious. They do it in subtle ways. Lady Gaga's Beautiful, Dirty, Rich is on. I love that song.
 



StevenWuFirstPaper 11 - 21 Nov 2009 - Main.StevenWu
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 Steve, it's called a "Blackberry."

-- DanaDelger - 20 Nov 2009

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Dana, that was the joke. wink It was a kind of depressing joke. Brian, I was not being facetious when I called it "slavery."

-- StevenWu - 21 Nov 2009

 
 
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StevenWuFirstPaper 10 - 20 Nov 2009 - Main.DanaDelger
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 Now, that said, the part that I think is true is that you are clearly not alone in being willing to trade privacy for the benefits you discuss. I am not yet, in this regard, taking all my own soapbox advice. So I certainly do understand where you are coming from.

-- BrianS - 20 Nov 2009

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"If I could have my future employers offer me a device that I could carry so that I could maximize my value to them, I would carry it. Perhaps some kind of machine that would issue orders from HQ so that at every waking moment I could be a productive capitalist cog." Steve, it's called a "Blackberry."

-- DanaDelger - 20 Nov 2009

 
 
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StevenWuFirstPaper 9 - 20 Nov 2009 - Main.BrianS
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 Do these clarifications and the edits above address your comments?

-- StevenWu - 19 Nov 2009

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"I think in class we incorrectly assume that people do not want advertising or data aggregation. This is just not empirically true."

I think this is true and false. Part of the argument against data aggregation is that even if we think we want it, we don't because of what it has the potential to do. It has the potential to raise prices based on knowing a given person in particular will pay more than others for a product. (I recently was looking at a CD on Amazon, about two months ago, and it was 8.99. I signed in and turned on Amazon Prime and it was suddenly 9.99. I sent Amazon a note asking them about it. They never replied. I saved the screenshot, though at the time I figured it was a glitch. Maybe not.). It has the potential to be turned against us in the event of a data breach. It offers the government new ways to know who people are and what they think about all sorts of things. It offers to reveal secrets about all users in ways the users wouldn't guess. Now maybe you have no secrets, maybe the government will only learn that you are a super-citizen and want to send you a Valentine's Day card once it knows all about you, and maybe your data won't be hacked. Today. As we talked about in class, memory is now eternal. The price of Facebook Recommendations today might be zero, as you suggest. Or, it might just be one of those no payments for 90 days things. If the bill comes due, there's no refund on privacy. What is said is said eternal, etched in silicon.

Now, that said, the part that I think is true is that you are clearly not alone in being willing to trade privacy for the benefits you discuss. I am not yet, in this regard, taking all my own soapbox advice. So I certainly do understand where you are coming from.

-- BrianS - 20 Nov 2009

 
 
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Revision 13r13 - 30 Nov 2009 - 01:49:27 - GavinSnyder
Revision 12r12 - 23 Nov 2009 - 16:18:56 - StevenWu
Revision 11r11 - 21 Nov 2009 - 04:49:19 - StevenWu
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