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  From: <lp2160@columbia.edu>
  To  : <cpc@emoglen.law.columbia.edu>
  Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:58:08 -0400

Re: telemarketers

But it is hard to tell whether the one is from the telemarketer or
your friend.  In addition, you would have to politely tell the
telemarketer that you are not interested.

Quoting ama2022@columbia.edu:

>
> Just like you could choose not to answer your phone if a
> telemarketer called you
>
> Quoting lp2160@columbia.edu:
>
> >
> > What I mean is you can choose not to watch or listen to the
> > commercials.  That is the beauty of freedom, the delicate line
> > drawn between the freedom to speech, and free from unwelcome
> > speech.
> > Lingyan
> >
> > Quoting ama2022@columbia.edu:
> >
> > >
> > > By that logic, are television and radio commercials
> > > unconstitutional?
> > >
> > > Quoting lp2160@columbia.edu:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > This very much looks like a letter deceiving people to
> > release
> > > > their
> > > > phone numbers by calling the number or visit the website,
> > like
> > > > the
> > > > fraud emails inducing people to release their bank account
> > > > details.
> > > >
> > > > Camden: Not only shall we not pay for the vexing calls, but
> > > also
> > > > not
> > > > to receive them.  The latter shall more important.  As a
> > person
> > > > in a
> > > > free society, we shall be able to free ourselves from
> wasting
> > > our
> > > > time receiving calls that are not from the intended
> callers.
> > > The
> > > > vexing calls are like the junk mails, except much worse.
> It
> > > took
> > > > not only money, but more importantly the time.  Time always
> > > ties
> > > > up
> > > > to freedom.  Otherwise, we would only pick up those calls
> > that
> > > we
> > > > can identify the caller.
> > > >
> > > > My thought is that as part of the meaning of freedom of
> > speech,
> > > > we
> > > > are free to choose not to hear any speech that we do not
> want
> > > to
> > > > listen to.
> > > > Lingyan
> > > >
> > > > Quoting Camden Hutchison <crh2014@columbia.edu>:
> > > >
> > > > > A friend of mine just sent me this e-mail:
> > > > >
> > > > > "In a few weeks, cellular telephone numbers are being
> > > released
> > > > to
> > > > > telemarketers.  Calls will start coming in to your cell
> > > phone,
> > > > > wasting your time and your minutes used.  Call this
> number
> > > > > 1-888-382-1222 from your cell phone in order to be put on
> > the
> > > > do
> > > > > not call list.  It will block your number for five years.
> > > You
> > > > > can
> > > > > also do this on-line at
> > > https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx
> > > > to
> > > > > register."
> > > > >
> > > > > I looked around on the donotcall web page, but I can't
> > figure
> > > > out
> > > > > what "in a few weeks, cellular telephone numbers are
> being
> > > > > released
> > > > > to telemarketers" is referring to.  Does anyone know
> > anything
> > > > > about
> > > > > this?  I do know that I have never received a
> telemarketing
> > > > call
> > > > > on
> > > > > my cell phone.
> > > > >
> > > > > My response to this would be "congress shall make no
> law...
> > > > > abridging the freedom of speech," except for the fact
> that
> > > cell
> > > > > phone users generally have to pay for incoming calls.  I
> > > think
> > > > > that
> > > > > this adds to what would be pure speech an element of harm
> > > > capable
> > > > > of
> > > > > regulation.  In other words, obnoxious people can call
> me,
> > > but
> > > > > they
> > > > > shouldn't be able to force me to pay for it.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Camden
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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