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  Linux.com matches Microsoft software donation offers!  
Thursday October 10, 2002 - [ 03:43 PM GMT ]   Print this Article
Topic - Advocacy

- By Robin "Roblimo" Miller -
If your school, charity or government agency is suddenly graced with a visit by Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer offering to donate a free operating system or desktop office software, Linux.com will match that offer. Our software offer has no strings attached to it whatsoever. You don't need to start paying for upgrades after a few years or anything like that. Too good to be true? Bill and Steve might think so, but we don't!

To begin with, we'd like to offer you a complete Linux operating system absolutely free. In fact, we'll offer you a choice of many different Linux versions, not just one product. Go to this server, pick your favorite, and download away.

But you'd better hurry. This offer is only good until ... well, for the rest of this century, anyway, and probably well beyond that (assuming the human race and the Internet and ibiblio.org all last that long).

Free registration

To register your copy of your chosen Linux distribution, all you have to do is mutter "free as in free beer and free as in free speech" under your breath while it installs. Simple, eh?

Heck, you can even skip the muttering and we won't tell anyone. Can Microsoft beat that offer with "free" Windows? Can you just install it and let it rip? Or do you need to have some sort of insanely long Secret Passcode and agree to a long user agreement written in lawyer-talk before you can use your "free" Windows? If you need to click "I agree" and input a Secret Passcode, you need to check how you define "free."

While we're on this subject, you may want to ask Microsoft if you can copy your "free" Windows CDs and install Windows on any additional computers that get donated to your organization. No? That doesn't sound very free, does it?

Well, we here at Linux.com hereby grant you unlimited rights to copy and redistribute any GPL software you want, including Linux. That, my friend, is what "free" means. And if you decide to use GPL software without our specific permission, you still have those rights.

Free office software!

But wait! There's more! That's right, we're not only going to give you, absolutely free, a world-class computer operating system renowned for its reliability and security features, but we'll throw in a complete set of office software you can use to create and edit documents of all kinds -- from business cards to books -- manipulate spreadsheets, create and edit drawings and photographs, and even use to make and present slide shows with animated graphics and special effects.

You can get your free office software directly from OpenOffice.org. Tell 'em Linux.com sent you and you'll get a free pat on the back, over and above everything else we're offering. Unbeatable!

Once you download and install your office software, you can join any one of a number of email lists where you can get free technical support. (You can learn more about these lists from the same Web site where you got the free office software.) What's more, you may suggest improvements to the software directly to the people who develop it through these very same email lists.

Go ask Microsoft if you can talk directly to the software engineers who work on MS Office. Ha!

And did I mention that these OpenOffice.org support services don't cost a dime? And that you don't need to fill out complicated online forms and give your corporate fax number to aggressive salespeople before you can use them?

Other Open Source software

You need a Web browser, you've got a Web browser. Want solitaire and other cool little games? Included. Cool text and HTML editors? At your fingertips. Want to play music? Rock on! Do graphics creation and editing, from simple to complicated? Go for it. Need firewalls and networking features? Yours for the asking, no charge. And there's lots more ... look at a Web site called freshmeat for a seemingly endless list of software you can use with Linux -- most of it free.

What about professional support?

Sometimes it's best to hire a professional to help your organization get started with a new operating system and new software. This part of Linux is not free. But you can usually find someone local to help you by going to your local Linux User Group -- and that user group will also be full of people who will probably answer questions for free (if you ask nicely) if you prefer to do your own work.

Whether or not to go the professional route with Linux is purely up to you. Some do, and some don't. One good thing to note is that, what with Linux being free, you will find that many people have learned a great deal about how to deploy and network it on their own, and have gotten certificates or college degrees later. As you can imagine, the kind of person who is passionate enough about Linux to stay up nights learning to work with it out of love for the code itself is going to make a great consultant for you -- especially if that person also has solid professional administration experience and a good grounding in computer theory, as many skilled Linux people do.

Double your money back!

Now, to clinch the deal, Linux.com is going to make an extraordinary offer to you: If, after reading this article, you download any free Linux distribution or free Linux software it links to, and you are not satisfied with it, we will not only refund all the money you paid in licensing fees, but will give you double that amount, no questions asked.

Anyone care to compete with this offer? Bill? Steve?

 

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really?      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 11:07 (
#29268)


How can linux.com afford this? Where would the money come from?
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Bravo      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 11:21 (
#29271)


Great article, it's linked where no one that matters will see it though. (I'm talking CIO/CTO/CEO types, no offense my fellow geeks.)
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    Re:Bravo by grant 2002.10.10 11:47
      Re:Bravo by Anonymous Reader 2002.10.10 11:58
      Re:Bravo by Anonymous Reader 2002.10.10 12:11
      Re:Bravo by Anonymous Reader 2002.10.10 20:08

Impossible...      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 11:25 (
#29273)


Only well-funded software companies can provide the rich, value-added user experience you describe. Remember, only profit drives innovation.
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no, don't have them mutter that ...      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 11:59 (
#29281)


If you're making this offer to grade schools, we'll
have to change the 'free' clause. After all, we don't
want to encourage underage drinking. Plus, most kids
interested in 'free beer' would be thrilled if they
could buy it, and the rest probably don't care about
free beer.
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Excellent      
by OwlWhacker on 2002.10.10 12:16 (
#29284)
User #153354 Info


Better watch out though, I expect that Microsoft will fly over to your house next and offer you a couple of million dollars to promote Windows instead.
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Free as in      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 12:26 (
#29285)


pizza!!!!
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well done      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 13:52 (
#29287)


ah. you've got my laughing my ass off over here. very well done. :)
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Paid by Microsoft      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 13:57 (
#29288)


I guess you will pay for this with the money you are getting from Microsoft for all the Visual Studio ads that I see on this site.
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Software donation by Microsoft/Linux.com      
by malkowich on 2002.10.10 14:10 (
#29290)
User #164155 Info


Ok,here it goes...
 
    For an educational institution, LINUX is the way to go:

  1. No new hardware to buy,even the old PCs can be put to use, NOT true with MS software as new and newer S/W comes out, it demands more and more from the hardware.

  2. No separate compiler suite to buy, Linux comes with GNU compilers and tools.

  3. Students must be educated how a multi-user environment works, now what a multi-user environment is, Linux or any *ixes provide that.

  4. Office and other productivity suites are great, but last time I checked, all pertinent information like course syllabi, documentation were published using PostScript or plain old HTML.
If OpenOffice is to take off, there must be more of the XML-ized documents published on the web. So when some tries to open them, the realize they need OpenOffice.

  5. All GOOD educational institutions do have Solarises or HP-UXs for their student accounts. So I don't think they would be interested in Linux a server solution for now. But what they do have a need for is the cheap workstations, which Linux can fill, that is if they haven't already accepted an MS offer.

    I could go on and on, but people who make such decisions are computer literate, and infact they don't care much about "good" and "bad" technology, so if Linux is cheap and is viable common sense will tell them to use it.

    MS has always played with the weakness of individuals, if you put money on the table, they will agree to anything. Examples can be found if you read the MS story, not the Microsoft version but the version some oldies can tell you.

    This is no joke folks, when it comes down to finding a job, if your skill base is not required at businesses then it will start to pinching. This is a fight, and it will take every linux user to win it.

 
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GPL for newbies      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 14:29 (
#29294)


I'd bet some people who are not familiar with the distinction between freeware and Free Software are going to be routed here, and there's nothing in the article to explain what GPL software is, so I thought I would offer up some links to useful references:


The GPL, and other free software licenses [gnu.org]

The philosophy behind Free Software and how it differs from freeware [gnu.org]


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I was muttering the wrong thing!      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 15:36 (
#29310)


I was muttering "klatu barata nictu"!
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Tax breaks, too.      
by timothy on 2002.10.10 15:45 (
#29314)
User #20 Info


Perhaps we could keep a (strictly voluntary of course) site to keep track of these nice free installs by distribution. For those distributions which *sell* software (like Red Hat), at the end of the tax year, they can deduct the retail gain X number installed. Only fair, since when MS refers to the value of the software they "give away," they do it in terms of their own retail purchase price.

(Which shows how screwed up our tax system is ;))

timothy
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Alas it is free for USA people :-(      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 16:15 (
#29319)


I am a linux & very happy with it . I am running my system for 4 years with linux with out any crush.

But the thing is in my country ( I am from India ) internet abnd width is very low , the speed is 56 kbps at max since here still the dailup network is populer so downign loading Rh 8 will be a matter of
down load for a week & so the telephone line cost & internet cost.

Though I have better solution I generally perfer to buy CD roms generally the lower price & got my Rh 7.3 in that way , 8 of our firend bought it & copied it just costs Rs 250 per head.

So I think the given offer is mainly for US baased people.

                                                                    Anirban Biswas.
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forward this to RedHat      
by DCallaghan on 2002.10.10 19:18 (
#29337)
User #6238 Info


RedHat *used* to have a non-pofit organization dedicated to providing software and services to educational institutions. They no longer do this. When I asked why, a RedHat representative told me that they were a for-profit company and so discontinued this non-profit service. Quick thinking, too. They wouldn't want to risk a tax break, good publicity and getting a new generation of kids, and maybe their parents, using their operating system.
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Free Linux      
by kshim5 on 2002.10.10 20:01 (
#29341)
User #144917 Info


Sweeeeeeeeeeeet man this is the best article i've seen this year funny but informative.
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Not how it is      
by Mandrake Magician on 2002.10.10 20:11 (
#29343)
User #162635 Info


If you actually want to appeal to the schools and you actually have a clue, next time mention all the educational software we have such as our drop-in replacement for BlackBoard, gradebook and scheduling software. Blackboard is costing these guys up the wazoo and we have an (the only?) alternative. Why were you silent about LTSP? or SEUL? Do you not know about them? Frankly, I don't think you know what you are talking about and it ticks me off that you pretend to address the public on behalf of Linux as a whole. Okay ... Linux is free, intellectually and, to a very large extent, financially. So what? If that were all Linux had to offer, it wouldn't be on Gates & Ballmers radar. Forget free ... let that be a nice bonus. Linux has LOTS more to offer. Even what I have written below barely scratches the surface.

Dear School Administrator,
      Please excuse my colleague. He's not used to dealing with business people such as yourself for whom reliability and standardization are far more important than initial cost. He isn't accustomed to looking that far into the future. But I know you are.

So here is our value proposition:

We have cloned most of the software you already use. There is an absolutely minimal re-learning curve to adopt our products.

We have begun to add logical, intelligent and innovative changes as we establish ourselves as the new leaders in software development.

It is possible that we have not yet cloned everything you currently use . We have a mechanism in place for creating specialized applications at minimal cost.

We do, in fact, offer this software for you to use throughout its lifetime at no charge.On that point my colleague was 100% correct.You may upgrade at will, modify at will and even, with restrictions, publish.

We are an international organization with technical support staff in every country served by the internet. In most cases, free technical support is available (in your local language) 24 / 7 on a 1-12 hr delay basis. If you should decide that you need even more immediate technical assistance maintaining the product, we have formed companies for that purpose and can also direct you toward skilled individuals should you decide to build your own support structure in-house.

Our software will allow you to skip at least one and possibly several hardware upgrade cycles. In most cases, the same programs are available for all common platforms such as Mac, Intel, DEC, Sun and so on. It's a long list. This allows you additional freedom in assigning your people.

We can help you centralize control and accounting so that you will retain a very high degree of control over which commercially licensed products are installed on your computers. No more nasty and harsh surprises at audit time.Nor more surprise expenses or expensive litigation on this point. You can show the Business Software Alliance the door, politely or not.The Open Source Movement does not audit.

It's a poor administrator who spends his budget on litigation,constant retraining and "upgrades" that add no needed functions.

We think you are better than that. We think you can recognize a true value proposition when you see one. We think you can hold a finger to the wind and tell when the tide is changing.And it is, most certainly, changing.

We'd like to call on you soon, before you make another purchase decision regarding either software or hardware. You have questions, we have answers. Good ones. You can find us online by using the search term "Linux User Group" in your favorite search engine or by following this link:
Go Linux! [google.com]
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A hoax, or even a fraud!      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 21:57 (
#29350)


Funny things happen every day. This one is classical. I read the article over and over, trying in vain to make sense of it. IS LINUX.COM REALLY OFFERING ANYTHING????????? OR WILL LINUX.COM DO ANYTHING BESIDES WRITING THIS ARTICLE??????? Can't anyone get any numbers of linux and OpenOffice for free? What has this to do with Microsoft or its donation to schools? This "offer" will surely thrill strangers to the Linux world. But isn't that a FRAUD??? Pleeeeeeeeeease, show me that I'm wrong.


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News flash. . .      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.10 22:30 (
#29353)


Linux.com owners today announced that the free Linux giveaway promoted by Robin "Roblimo" Miller on their Internet web site was not approved by them in advance. Because of this, Mr. Miller will be solely responsible for the costs associated with this program.
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Genius, rlimo, genius.      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.11 0:36 (
#29360)


lately, linux pr is hitting it's stride.
First the "Free as in Enterprise " slogan,
and now this.

By the way, some corp would proabley pay a few hundred thousand just to come up with a slogan like that.
Don't laugh, Coca Cola spent several _million_
dollars to come up with the name Dasani for
their entry into the bottled water market.
corps love to spend money.

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dont cripple childen with linux      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.11 1:49 (
#29365)


linux is bad for kids to use. you're like drug dealers ... targeting the young, trying to get them to start at an early age.
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Tongue-in-cheek=too many serious responses      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.11 3:52 (
#29374)


Sorry folks, but why does it seem people think the article was meant to be 100% serious? All it's doing is showing that the linux community has been offering the same thing that MS is doing now, but for longer. Money, monopoly and other madness aside, just have a giggle. The only really serious response I'm respecting is Mandrake Magician's. Schools have specialized software too, not just word processors. It's essential that all the needs are met. Considering the audience, one would hope that user training wouldn't be such a big deal, though ;)
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Yea.. and whats a M$ ad doin "behind yourbus"here?      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.11 7:24 (
#29387)


Hmmm. what hypocricy.. an M$ VIsual BAsic .NET .TAKEOVER ad and a M$ "Behind your business" ad... way to go Open Source Destruction Network (OSDN) !!!
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uh      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.11 19:34 (
#29463)


of course it can offer it.... because all linux is.. is a lame knock off of solaris + windows. There's not even the slightest bit of innovation in the linux arena. It all ripped from solaris and windows. HAHAHA
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    Re:uh by Anonymous Reader 2002.10.12 16:44
    Re:uh by Mandrake Magician 2002.10.13 0:21

Save the NEWBIES!      
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.10.13 10:16 (
#29581)


There was a large promotional bullet left out of the article. We who use Linux sometimes forget what it is like to face a computer for the first time. Linux gives the newbie the freedom to explore and tinker without the fear of destroying the system with an inadvertent click.

I just spent a day rescuing a "newbie" from MS Windows. Someone had loaned her an old computer with MS Windows. Neither she nor her husband knew beans about a computer, except how to hit the power button. They worked out the mouse (remember watching newbies twist and steer the mouse?). Somewhere in Windows, they clicked the wrong thing and the next time they turned it on, it asked for a boot disk. No such creature was included with the loaned computer, so they hired a lady "down the road" to "repair" the system. (My suspicion is that they may have dragged the System "folder" and dropped it inside some other, or some of those "hidden", "system" files were left available). Regardless of how it happened, the experience left them afraid to explore anything beyond solitaire.

My rescue kit was an old P-133 with 32 Mb of RAM, a built-in 1Mb Cirrus Logic video card and Debian 3.0 and a 15" monitor. The desktop (fvwm2) was very barebones: just a 4-desktop pager in the corner and the cursor. Click anywhere and the Debian-maintained menus pop up. Mozilla, Navigator, AbiWord, Nano, some games (including ace-of-penguins solitaire), mc and the varied multitude of toys and utilities that accompany a Linux distribution are on those menus. My daughter and I created a custom, local home page to provide links to all the documentation, a few personalized help files, and, with the help of a little php script, a page with a button to either mount or unmount the cdrom via the browser.

The thing that garnered the most gratitude and relieved look from the couple was the fact that they could explore without fear. They were quite comfortable with being warned that deleting their own files meant those files were gone for good. It was the freedom from worry about damaging the system itself, as regular users, that they appreciated.

If someone gave you a new toy, but told you if you twist the wrong knob, or push the buttons in the wrong sequence, it would completely fall apart, you might be reluctant to play with that toy. Newbies should be allowed to play with the pretty knobs and buttons without fear of breaking their new toy.

(Sorry for posting anonymously. See http://edge-op.org/grouch/ [edge-op.org] ).
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Fear, Greed, SEX sells!      
by Sage1 on 2002.10.14 7:37 (
#29645)
User #153219 Info


So, I am offering my rotund body, along with some knowledge of the fearful BSOD and some other diseases of the closed source kind, and an alternative to let you get rich quick!
Three things sell stuff, FEAR, GREED, and, SEX!

Oh well, you probably wouldn't want a 60 year old guy hanging round your place... But, the BSOD fear is worth something, right? And, a way to block all that spam, while getting out a few precious words in a very secure environment that is crashproof, could be priceless to aware 'C' level execs... Gee, I hope they show their wisdom soon!
I am starting to lose faith in the capitalist
philosophy!
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