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Or (Score:4, Funny)
by sulli on Monday September 23, @08:01PM (#4315911)
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Just wait until someone posts it up on Kazaa.
(Note to self: don't buy Creative. iPod works fine.)
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Why Elvis? (Score:4, Interesting)
by CresentCityRon on Monday September 23, @08:02PM (#4315918)
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Elvis Costello in his prime was ANTI-establishment, ANTI-big biz and PRO-individual. You can see a lot of that from his interviews and comments.
Now he's just a tool. And it is funny as well since his music isn't as important as it once was. He could USE some of the exposure P2P offered. Now he'll be known by the masses as the first person who's CD stopped playing after four times. (At least in the UK.)
"You better do what you've been told. You better listen to your Radio" - EC.
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Rights? (Score:2)
by littlerubberfeet on Monday September 23, @08:03PM (#4315927)
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Now, if I remember correctly, we have the right to make backup copies of media, right?
Has this simple little fact gotten lost among all the complexities of the DRM stuff? So, tell me, where is the class-action lawsuit for consumers?
Damn, now I sound like a troll, oh well
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- Re:Rights? by sevinkey (Score:1) Monday September 23, @08:13PM
- Re:Rights? by Dredd13 (Score:2) Monday September 23, @08:38PM
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DRM will never stop the analog backup (Score:1)
by Chaltek on Monday September 23, @08:04PM (#4315933)
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I wonder how long it will take before some of our less DMCA compliant friends figure out a way around this newest effort to stop us evil music pirates.
There's no way to stop people from making copies by plugging a recorder into the output, why doesn't the industry understand and just adapt?
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Damn... (Score:2, Funny)
by infornogr on Monday September 23, @08:06PM (#4315950)
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Damn... I was expecting information on frog-boiling. Videos would've been cool.
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- Re:Damn... by billbaggins (Score:2) Monday September 23, @08:37PM
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Warning: Your music may be insecure. (Score:5, Funny)
by raehl on Monday September 23, @08:07PM (#4315952)
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Microsoft recently announced their initiative to protect the content of their users' media through an initiative known as DRM, or Digital Rights Management. "It is absolutely essential that computer users adopt Digital Rights Management as quicly as possible," stated Microsoft spokesman Al Screwum. "Without this software, people's music and videos remain insecure."
"It is only a matter of time before rogue black-hat hacker elements maliciously take advantage of this insecurity and replace parts of or even whole songs with other content," stated RIAA spokeswoman Annah Acker. "Imagine trying to listen to Brittney Spears and being forced to listen to Led Zepplin instead - all because someone exploited your unprotected music files!"
"I hope this program is available soon," said Microsoft Windows user Nadja Clue. "Just yesterday I was trying to get the latest Christina Aquilera song off of KaZaa, but when I played it, all I got was static! Maybe DRM will stop the people who deleted the song I had to restart my computer 6 times to download!"
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Copy protecting ok (Score:1, Insightful)
by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 23, @08:09PM (#4315959)
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IMO it's perfectly all right to ship your product copy protected, encrypted, watermarked, scrambled, digested etc etc. But it should be equally legal to try and break said scheme.
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Where have I seen this before? (Score:2, Insightful)
by rworne on Monday September 23, @08:09PM (#4315961)
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Sneaking software onto unsuspecting users' PC's.
Adding or removing functions. It seems that the DRM crowd has taken a page off of the crapware/spyware vendors and are encouraging people to install this stuff on their computers.
I guess it won't be too long before that mega-hit CD has a data track with an unreleased track that requires DRM in order to be played, enabling both the RIAA to get their control over hardware/software and MS to get Windows Media Player more entrenched.
I'd say who the losers are in this case, but we already know that by now.
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Can M$ get in trouble? (Score:2, Insightful)
by I_am_Rambi on Monday September 23, @08:11PM (#4315971)
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If you do, then you'll (most likely) end up with the beta of Microsoft's latest DRM player (which youn can't easily get off XP), and you'll also have your settings changed so that your installation facilitates DRM, WMA format and pay per play. But don't worry, it didn't cost you anything.*
Doesn't this violate the Microsoft agreement? There has to be a way to take Windows Media Player off your computer. If I am correct, there should be a program to illimate the presence of Microsoft products (IE, and that sorts) from desktop/startup menu. The program should also illimate WMP from these areas as well. Does anyone know for sure if this breaks the Microsoft agreement?
UK Sunday Times newspaper unleashed a neat little trojan that'll upgrade you to Windows Media Player 9
I always thought trojans are bad. This is no exception. I wonder how long it will take McAfee and Norton to come out with a fix for this.
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and to think creative was becoming a good company (Score:2)
by Squarewav on Monday September 23, @08:12PM (#4315975)
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creative was becoming one of the better hardware companies over the past few years, coming out with nice sounding soundcards that are well supported under windows, Linux and even beos(well when be was alive anyway- did you know beos had emu10k1 drivers well before linux), but this DRM crap goes to far, disabling the digital out so you its harder to create copies that sound like the original, I don't have a problem with DRM for the most part as long as it stays out of my way. but hardware that cripples itself when something uses DRM is just lame, I think I'm going to go out and get a new soundcard, anyone know of any good brands/chipsets that are well supported under Linux that sound good and costs under 70$
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Buy-Bitch-Return (Score:2)
by peterdaly (petedaly@noSPAm.ix.netcom.com) on Monday September 23, @08:12PM (#4315976)
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For the ones with more initiative than myself, it may be time once again for the good 'ol buy...bitch...return, sequence of events. Be interesting to know if they honor returns. Too bad the CD is free.
Also, go to the review sites on the net and let this info be know about the Soundblaster Live. Amazon's a good place to start, I'm not up to date with all the current popular ones.
-Pete
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Not to worry... yet (Score:2)
by guttentag on Monday September 23, @08:13PM (#4315982)
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If they're using Costello to promote DRM, this won't become all that widespread. If they start using combination NSYNC/Britney Spears album, then we're in trouble. Because then the world will be saturated with DRM, noise pollution and the pitter patter of little Britneys banging out their first album against the crib.
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Nice... (Score:1)
by beerman2k on Monday September 23, @08:14PM (#4315988)
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Now that's what I call object reporting!
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cd? (Score:3, Insightful)
by dizco on Monday September 23, @08:15PM (#4315999)
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So, i have to boot up a windows box and connect to the net to play this cd through my 20 dollar speakers and my 10 dollar sound card?
I can't put it in my cd player and listen to it through real speakers? I can't listen to it in my car?
Ok, well. I dunno what that is, but its not an audio cd, and I don't know how much it costs, but even if its free, its useless to me. Thanks, but no thanks.
--sean
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Don't Do Anything (Score:3, Insightful)
by PaulQuinn on Monday September 23, @08:17PM (#4316016)
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Don't use DRM files
Don't hack DRM files
Don't pay for DRM files
Don't do anything with DRM files
As soon as it's known that DRM content doesn't make money it will tank faster than advertising CPMs.
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Time to do something good for humanity (Score:4, Interesting)
by bogie on Monday September 23, @08:19PM (#4316030)
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It's funny because as much as everyone complains, its pretty apparent that DRM and Palladium are coming to a computer near you.
Instead of reading how fucked were going to be, it would be nice if we concentrated on what current efforts are being made to fight for our rights. If Slashdot is going to be posting Y.A.S.O.D.R.M.(yet another story on drm). Maybe they could actually do something positive and once a week post about the ongoing efforts to combat it. You know like "this week X happened", and have it be a ongoing thing.
I'm not really sure what page to link to, but someone out there must be organized. It would be great if every Friday their was some sort of update we could all follow along with.
Now I know some of you are saying Slashdot is a "news service" and shouldn't get involved. But gimma a break Slashdot is hardly unbiased and there is obviously no "journalism code" being followed. Amost every submission is heavily biased.
I dunno /. do you want to be remembered for posting the news, or would you like to be remembered as something that actually made a difference?
Its just a suggestion, but if I had a website read by billions a visitors a day, I'd try to do some good. Are there other more worthy causes? Sure by far(AIDS,war,education etc), but this IS a tech news site and if there is even going to be opensource news to print about, things like DRM and Palladium need to be stopped now.
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Meanwhile, the press is completely unbiased... (Score:1)
by wirelessbuzzers (hamburg@fas.harRE ... .edu minus distro) on Monday September 23, @08:20PM (#4316037)
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It's a matter of time to see if consumers will flat-out reject this new 'enabling' technology, or let it seep into and infect their lives like the disease that it is.
OK, I am against DRM too, and will never buy a system with Palladium in it or any DRM-{en|dis}abled media player, but this is ridiculous. If you're going to call it news, please report with some degree of objectivity. The "from the...dept" line is the place for editorial comments. In this case, not only is the title rather suggestive (appropriate, too, but not impartial), but the author goes out and says DRM IS A DISEASE. While I agree, not everyone does, and you will find that your journalism becomes stronger and less controversial/offensive if you smash something subtly (or not at all) instead of openly, especially when the facts speak for themselves.
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unique ID for each machine (Score:1)
by drewstyle on Monday September 23, @08:21PM (#4316045)
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I wonder if Microsoft will detect all of their software that I pirated when they send a unique ID. I guess I will never find out since I don't plan to use this new crap
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A tool which may exist? (Score:2)
by grahamsz (spam-me-not@graha.ms) on Monday September 23, @08:28PM (#4316082)
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Does anyone know of a tool that can reliably test a CD to see if it meets any of the various *book standards published for CDs.
That way it'd be real easy to prove that it wasn't a CD-Audio disc and return it.
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WMP8 and TotalRecorder (Score:2)
by brain159 on Monday September 23, @08:30PM (#4316087)
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We get the relevant newspaper (the Sunday Times) in my household so out of boredom yesterday I grabbed said CD, and found the following:
The article is over-hyped (more than is usual for The Register) - it's not necessary to download WMP9beta to play the "limited" media files, it just offers you that as the default download if you're lacking WMP or are too far out-of-date.
On WinXP with the default version of WMP (8.1 or something like that), I had to go online and pick up a license file for each track (and fill in a form on a pop-up window for the first one, giving them a BS name and address). There was no super-clever Secure Audio Path stuff when playing back the files on WMP8 and it didn't seem to notice I was ripping the stream to disk with TotalRecorder [highcriteria.com] for later mp3-encoding!
(to their credit, the audio files on the CD are 192kbit WMA which does sound pretty damn good, even after MP3ing)
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Disable digital out? (Score:2)
by Alizarin Erythrosin on Monday September 23, @08:33PM (#4316108)
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Ok but my other computer still has an analog in, and I have a nice little cable that will bridge the 2. Start recording on one, play on the other, problem solved. Sure it may not be the absolute best quality but it still allows me to excercise my right to make a backup copy of cds I own.
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Crapola (Score:1)
by anthony_dipierro (five.plus.five@inbox.org) on Monday September 23, @08:36PM (#4316128)
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It's a matter of time to see if consumers will flat-out reject this new 'enabling' technology, or let it seep into and infect their lives like the disease that it is.
How does this shit get through the editors? timothy, welcome back to my block list (I had you on for several months and put you back hoping you'd gotten better).
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write to Costello (Score:2)
by RestiffBard (restiffbard@ureach.com) on Monday September 23, @08:37PM (#4316138)
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I'm just gonna write to Mr. Costello and explain that I am now unable to hear his music at all. I use linux and they don't play Costello on the radio all that much anymore.
Last time I heard Costell was during an interview on Fresh Air on NPR.
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if the protection is reasonable, where's the prob? (Score:1)
by Headrick (sph at headricksoftware dot com) on Monday September 23, @08:38PM (#4316149)
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Many pieces of software are already protected using a license manager or whatnot. Music, like software, is a mathematical piece of art. Like software, it should not be free. If all software was free, I would not be able to pursure my passion as a software developer and still support myself. The analogy is directly applicable to music (I am also an amateur musician). The point is that the DRM must not impede the user's experience. As long as they have the freedom they need to enjoy what they own, I'm all for it. It puzzles me when so many Linux zealots fight so hard for music to be free yet support things like the GPL that they probably don't understand the full ramifications of. Every wonder why BSD is more stable? When I write a song, I want to protect it and protect my rights to it. Why is the medium (audio) being treated with such disdaim when the artist trys to protect themselves. Eventually this will help indy artists as well. Please examine your viewpoint and make sure you're not being a hippocrite. If it takes me 40 hours to develop a piece of software, I expect to get paid. If it takes me 40 hours (probably more) to produce a single I expect to get paid. It is my artwork. Maybe creative doesn't have the right approach but don't discount the notion entirely.
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Re:hmmmm (Score:1)
by zrodney on Monday September 23, @08:03PM (#4315931)
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check out the article at http://www.fastcompany.com/online/01/frog.html
it actually shows the opposite of the frog boiling
myth. makes sense, really. if you put a frog
in boiling water, it will be severely injured
right away and probably won't be able to jump out.
Whereas a frog in cold water will get bored and
jump out before long. :)
from the article...
How did our expert interpret this triumph of science? "There are certain cases where gradual change is almost preferred," Hofman commented. "The change myth assumes a very narrow view of people. If frogs can do it, people definitely can."
I wonder if the same applies to people and DRM
software??
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3. PROFIT! (Score:1)
by Breakerofthings on Monday September 23, @08:16PM (#4316006)
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SouthPark, as far as I know ... remember the underwear-stealing gnomes?
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Re:You guys suck! (Score:1)
by superpeach (adamf@snika.uBOYS ... x.net minus berry) on Monday September 23, @08:38PM (#4316144)
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You mean like the riaa IIS server? I dont think that had anything to do with the server, see [theregister.co.uk]
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