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  UnitedLinux might not be very GPL-friendly  
Wednesday September 18, 2002 - [ 04:46 PM GMT ]   Print this Article
Topic - Free Software

- by Tina Gasperson -
UnitedLinux held a telephone party today to announce new general manager Paula Hunter and talk about its open beta release. Lots of curious journalists showed up. The question-askers all had a cynical air about them, and yet UnitedLinux bigwigs didn't seem surprised by the grilling. The underlying question still: what will UnitedLinux mean in the big picture that is Linux business? Our question: what about the GPL? (Also inside, an open letter to the UnitedLinux group from the FSF.)

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The UnitedLinux people shielded Hunter from having to answer any technical questions about Linux (or Line-Ux as the conference call coordinator pronounced it), when someone asked just how much experience she's had with Linux and Free Software anyway. Some thought it odd that Ransom Love is no longer in the picture either at SCO or UnitedLinux (Paula didn't really have an answer for that either.)

And there was talk from some journalists about the possibility of the separate Linux companies that make up UnitedLinux simply merging to form one gigantic Linux behemoth that could be the unstoppable Goliath all corporate guys lust after. UL batted its eyelashes at that suggestion, not willing to play kiss and tell just yet.

But what we at NewsForge really wanted to know was how UnitedLinux is planning to stay true to the heart of Linux -- the GNU General Public License. Nobody else seemed interested, so we asked how UL managed to release a closed beta and still comply with the terms of the GPL.

UnitedLinux admitted it had its partners sign a non-disclosure agreement in order to use the closed beta, which likely means that UL violated the copyright of kernel developers everywhere and others who have contributed to GNU/Linux. If the NDA was structured so that the GPL would take precedence on non-proprietary, Free Software elements of the software, then that NDA would not violate the terms of the GPL. It is more likely, however, that the NDA squashed the GPLed freedoms by forcing recipients of the closed beta to agree that they would not redistribute any portion of the software.

Bradley Kuhn, executive director of the Free Software Foundation, was also on the conference call, and he asked the UnitedLinux hosts if they would be willing, as a show of solidarity with the Free Software and Open Source communities, to open up their NDA to inspection in order to show that they did comply with the terms of the GPL. They said they'd take that under advisement. But I wouldn't hold my breath.

Kuhn followed up his phone question with this open letter, sent today to all members of UnitedLinux:

Dear UnitedLinux Board of Managers,

On the conference call announcement that occurred on 18 September 2002, you indicated that you'd be willing to release to the Free Software community the terms that of your "closed beta" NDA, to show that your closed beta was indeed distributed in compliance with the terms of the GNU General Public License and the GNU Lesser General Public License.

As you know, distribution of any type is still distribution under copyright law, and thus requires that you properly comply with terms of GPL and LGPL. Of course, it is your prerogative to distribute only to those parties you wish to receive a copy, but you may not restrict those parties' rights under GNU GPL and LGPL.

However, since nearly all of the volunteers from the Free Software community (your fellow developers) did not receive a copy of the so-called "closed beta", we ask that in a show of good faith, you make available at least the terms of distribution you used for that product.

Even as you release your new product to the public, the past situation must be clarified. Not only does the community deserve to know, but I also believe it behooves you to put to rest and clarify the legal ambiguities that arise naturally from doing a "closed beta" of GPL'ed software.

I look forward to your prompt response, and thank you for taking my question today. I presume that you are acting in full compliance with GPL; this is just a matter of clarifing that fact for the community.

Sincerely,

Bradley M. Kuhn
Executive Director, Free Software Foundation

Other so-called Linux advocates don't seem to be too concerned about the closed tendencies showing up in UnitedLinux: Linux International and the Free Standards Group are two .orgs that have endorsed the group, composed of Turbolinux, SCO, SuSE, and Conectiva. Pundits have suggested that Linux International and the Free Standards Group may have even signed NDAs themselves.

So what's the big deal? UnitedLinux is going to put a public beta online in the next week or so, and the source code will be included for free (even though it doesn't have to be free). UL will only charge for commercial use. But will they include the source on that? And will there be another NDA to sign? That's the big deal: Is UnitedLinux down with the idea behind software libre, or are they just trying to become a Red Hat killer and Linux oligopoly in order to make some fast bucks? After all, Turbolinux, SCO, SuSE and Conectiva have not been known as staunch Free Software adherents -- unlike two other commercial distros: Mandrake and Red Hat.

A little more openness, a little more communications, and maybe a peek at the NDA would go a long way in developing trust in the community which has so generously provided to UL years of hard work on the Linux kernel and other Free Software.


 

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now it's starting to make sense      (#26489)
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.09.18 12:20


These four companies had two problems: 1) RedHat's market dominance and 2) customer aversion to per-seat licensing, which is needed for a sustainable business model. By pooling their distros and bundling in some non-GPL software, they can tell customers "licenses are per seat, that's the way it is, take or it leave it". Of course, many will leave it and opt for RH instead. But maybe they're betting that RH will run into financial problems of its own (it just reported another loss) and will be forced to take a similar tack. In the meantime, they can still claim their licenses are cheap relative to Windows and the proprietary Unix vendors.
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Sad Comment      (#26494)
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.09.18 12:59


1. Why do you seed such rumors against United Linux?
2. The members of UL are well-known Linux distributors, why shall they change their policy?

3. RH dominates only the US-market

4. If you want a 100% free system, use Debian Linux
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Forking and GPL violations...      (#26495)
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.09.18 13:03


Does anyone remember my commentary on them forking and possibly committing sparing GNU GPL violations?

Lots of people thought I was just paranoid for writing it. Not to say "I told you so..." because it's not quite the same, but their intentions here are obviously not good and my "paranoia" was obviously founded.

This is Lindows part 2. Everyone, let's avoid UL like the plague. These people require us to show them that they can't walk all over us. There is no excuse for what they're doing here. They're holding back changes until such time that UL is a different animal than the other projects. They know they can't do this and a beta without an NDA.

So, UnitedLinux, your scheme is up. Own up to the community - release your source, and release your beta to the community. Or else, look forward to Lindows style boycotts and general commentary trashings.

Barry Fitzgerald
fitzix
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Redhat not exactly friendly to KDE      (#26499)
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.09.18 13:14


If RedHat staunchly abided by the behavior expected of Free software movement participants, then it wouldn't have been so unfriendly to the only free Unix desktop environment, KDE.

Because GNOME is under LGPL, it is not as free as KDE. Mandrake is the only commercial distro that adheres to the community's standards.
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Pronunciation      (#26500)
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.09.18 13:27


The word Linux actually should be pronounced Line'-ux but most English speakers are too ignorant of etymology and do not realize this.

The name Linus in Swedish is pronounced Lee'-nus because in most Indo-European languages, a long I sound is pronounced with our long E. To say that Lin'-ux is "closer" to "Lee'-nux" is simply inaccurate and uneducated.

You don't pronounce Linus Torvalds's name as Lin'-us (or any English speaker with that same first name) so why should you pronounce his kernel as Lin'-ux? If you went around telling people that 2 min-us 2 is zero, people would think you're idiotic.

I think the other reason people mispronounce Linux is because it was designed to be a copy of Minix, which is correctly pronounced Min-ix' since it is based on the word mini.
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GPL wake-up call...      (#26507)
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.09.18 13:51


To all the GPL fans out there, GET REAL! It's nice to think that everyone lives in the same Nirvana we do, but lets face it, there have been and always will be those that break the rules for a buck. It's painfully obvious that "GPL" and "thriving software company" will never be together in the same sentence,...legally that is.

I must admit, I tried to live in the same Nirvana armed with only the GPL but once the corporate world got involved, I knew it was just a matter of time. I'm done jumping through hoops for my own software! Please folks, take a good look around and support OUR distribution. Start supporting and coding Debian.
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You should know      (#26524)
by Anonymous Reader on 2002.09.18 14:44


The Evil Empire will probably cause my political party to lose the federal elections. All because of a dirty scandal in Anti-Linux lobbying.

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-07 -26-008-26-NW-MS-PB

And you talk about GPL violations in preview versions!
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